Voters Trust McCain More on Nearly EVERYTHING

Rasmussen's latest survey came out, stating the voters, although leaning Democratic on issues like Iraq and the economy, trust McCain more than either Democrat on almost every issue.

I can understand how a primary can cause problems, but how the hell can THIS MANY people still support McCain over EITHER Democrat?

Forty-eight percent (48%) trust Democrats more than Republicans when it comes to the economy while 40% trust the GOP more. Those numbers are reversed when real names are inserted instead of party labels. Given a choice between McCain and Clinton, 47% trust McCain more while 42% prefer the former First Lady. Given a choice between McCain and Obama on the economy, 46% trust the GOP nominee while 39% opt for the Democratic frontrunner.

Excuse me while I scratch my head...I've been seeing endless commercials for the past three weeks blasting McCain's ignorance on the economy...how the hell?

Tracking polls have shown that roughly 6-out-of-ten Americans want troops home from Iraq within a year. However, only about one-in-four want the troops brought home immediately. The gap between those numbers is filled by Americans who both parties have a chance to persuade during Election 2008. Overall, when it comes to Iraq, Democrats are currently trusted more by 45% of voters and the GOP is trusted more by 43%. However, when it comes to the War in Iraq, McCain is trusted by more than either Democrat. Fifty percent (50%) trust McCain over Clinton while 40% hold the opposite view. Forty-eight percent (48%) trust McCain over Obama while 39% prefer Obama.

So basically 100 years in ok, more of the same is fine, but only if it's McCain?

The broader topic of National Security is one of the few issues where Republicans have a generic advantage over Democrats. However, following seven years of the Bush Administration, the GOP advantage on this issue has declined. Currently, 47% of voters trust Republicans more on this issue while 42% trust the Democrats more. However, once again, McCain outperforms the party label and dominates against either Democrat. When it comes to national security, McCain is trusted more than Clinton by a 54% to 34% margin. With Obama, McCain's advantage is 52% to 31%.

We're still getting blown out of the water with national security? Even after FISA?

On taxes, Republicans are preferred over Democrats, 46% to 42%. McCain is trusted over Clinton 45% to 36% and by a 41% to 38% margin over Obama.

The Republican "Democrats will raise your taxes argument" is still working.

<>Government Ethics and Corruption] is the issue that breaks the pattern. Democrats are trusted more than Republicans by a 38% to 32% margin. Most unaffiliated voters don't trust either party on the topic. Here, Obama outperforms the Democratic Party label and is trusted more than McCain by a 44% to 33% margin. However, McCain is trusted more than Clinton, 47% to 34%.

Well thank God we win on something.

Yes, I know it's Rasmussen, but they've been a fairly good polling firm this primary, at worst being more in Obama's favor in polls than final results. I know we're in the middle of a primary, but I feel like even so, why aren't both Democrats beating McCain on these issues, and why do 43% of voters still trust the Republicans on Iraq?

What is going on? Why is John McCain so damn strong?



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McCain hasn't been touched yet. (2.00 / 1)

We're too busy having an internecine war to go after him, so he's had a free ride.

Either Democrat will bury him come November.


by Bob Johnson on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:23:50 PM EST

Re: McCain hasn't been touched yet. (2.00 / 1)

I have to agree with you, Bob. Every day he's out there unrestrained is a gift.
That "forgotten places" tour was a real thigh slapper...
by skohayes on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:28:46 PM EST
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I liked how he lied (2.00 / 1)

about the 9th ward in the ninth ward.  That was great especially with his past on the issue (getting cake from W.)


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:04:36 PM EST
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Re: Voters Trust McCain More on Nearly EVERYTHING (none / 0)

So much for the "people trust Obama more than they trust Clinton" narrative.

"Given a choice between McCain and Clinton, 47% trust McCain more while 42% prefer the former First Lady. Given a choice between McCain and Obama on the economy, 46% trust the GOP nominee while 39% opt for the Democratic frontrunner."


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:25:25 PM EST

Who cares (none / 0)

they trust McCain more than both of them, THAT'S OUR PROBLEM


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:57:15 PM EST
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Re: Who cares (none / 0)

Apparently Senator Clinton's got an easier scale to climb that Senator Obama. I'm sick of the argument that "everyone trusts Clinton more than Obama", so that's why I put that out there.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:12:37 PM EST
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Re: Who cares (none / 0)

*everyone trusts Obama more than Clinton

whoops


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:12:49 PM EST
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You missed this part clearly (none / 0)

<>[Government Ethics and Corruption] is the issue that breaks the pattern. Democrats are trusted more than Republicans by a 38% to 32% margin. Most unaffiliated voters don't trust either party on the topic. Here, Obama outperforms the Democratic Party label and is trusted more than McCain by a 44% to 33% margin. However, McCain is trusted more than Clinton, 47% to 34%.<>

Depends on the issue, but on ethics, Obama is trusted MUCH MORE than Clinton.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:24:42 PM EST
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Re: Voters Trust McCain More on Nearly EVERYTHING (2.00 / 1)

That must chap McCain that Obama is winning so handily in the "government ethics and corruption" category considering that he has spent his post-Keating 5 career trying to establish his image as a purist.

The blogosphere seems to underestimate McCain.  The guy's brand is incredibly powerful.  The guy will take a plethora of white male working-class votes if Hill is the nominee; all he has to do is walk around with a Navy hat and it won't matter how many Crown Royals Hill pounds down.  Obama will bleed a ton of independents to him as well; McCain has spent the last eight years in the Senate fostering the notion that he has a maverick in order run for president this year.  The Republicans nominated not just the toughest candidate among their nominees, but probably their tougest candidate among any Republican in America to run against either Hill or Obama in this climate.


by Blazers Edge on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:34:59 PM EST

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I couldn't agree with you more. People underestimate McCain almost to the point of self destruction and shooting ourself in the foot again.
McCain has some of the same problems as Obama as far as the latino and older female voters but I can see him taking CA back to Red after Clinton turned it back to blue in 1992. He knows much more about our demographics because they are much like his own state of AZ and unlike our democratic candidates McCain will campaign heavily in CA with the backing of the Republican governor...who has been become less obnoxous and less offensive in his second term, plus we have very high pockets of republican areas in the state. Most of those the very wealthy, highly educated areas or the poorer areas where the median income is in the $30,000 to $40,000 range. (I have no idea on the latter) except they do cling to guns and religion and probably do have antipathy for anyone not like them. Democrats are not like them. (maybe in PA- but not in CA).

Any democratic nominee in CA is going to need some heavy backing from Feinstein, Boxer, Filner, Waxman,Harmon,Matsui, possibly Pelosi (I like her but many dems see her as a traitor for taking impeachment off the table and blame her for the failed legislation that passed in the house but not the senate) and few of the heavy hitters in CA- that I can't recall at this moment, but I think they'll make the mistake of calling CA a 'safe' blue state and not campaiging at all.


by Justwords on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 07:02:54 AM EST
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Do not underestimate (none / 0)

Remember the lessons of Bush.

For a lot of Americans, the Presidency is the most personal office in the land, and the vote largely based on very abstract things, like their "sense" of the candidate's character, and so on.

McCain is amazing because he contradicts himself so often, and so blatantly, but all he needs to say is: "My friends, a little straight talk" and people trust him implicitly.

That is what makes him dangerous.


by bobbank on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:07:14 PM EST

Well (none / 0)

I hate to be cynical, but I think it's a combination of low-information voters and many people refusing to have nuanced looks at things.  I think many/most people (including members of my own family) desperately want the world to be painted as black and white with no shades of gray.  They want easy answers to things like immigration (deport them all), free trade (f#ck globalization), education (move to a better school district if your school sucks), race (I don't see race), sexism (I treat men and women equally all the time), and foreign policy (bomb everyone that disagrees with us).  

I'm not going to pretend that I'm not an ideologue at times when it comes to this primary cycle.  But that's the result of the acrimony going on and I expect/hope to become reasonable once again after this is all over.  


by ProgressiveDL on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:48:48 PM EST

Re: Well (none / 0)

"I hate to be cynical, but I think it's a combination of low-information voters and many people refusing to have nuanced looks at things."

If we are elitist we speak like this.  If we are not we need to find different ways to understand the world.

If ultimately we say "low information" voters who are not sufficiently "nuanced" in their world view make up the majority of voters and thats just tough cookies for us then we are totally screwed and making sure by our actions that things only get worse.

your vocabulary seems to come from a world view that is intrinsically out of touch.


by DTaylor on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:07:55 PM EST
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Re: Well (none / 0)

I make no bones about the fact that I am an elitist.  But rather than rejecting low-information voters or those who do not want to have a nuanced view of things, I believe we need to work to try to convince people to have a less black/white perspective.  It's part of the reason I love teaching.

Despite some of my more visceral comments in other topics, I don't think we can FORCE people to change against their will.  I do, however, believe it is our responsibility to provide people information in such a way as to encourage them to have a more complex perspective.  

I think this is a fundamental difference between Hillary and Obama (and their supporters).  Hillary's DLC position is to acknowledge the black/white perspective of these voters and come to them.  Obama's position within the DFA is to acknowledge those perspectives and try to help them consider other alternative world-views.  

And I say this as someone who was an Alex P. Keaton conservative in a family of moderate/centrist Democrats.  I would have voted for Bush in 2000 if I had been on top of things enough to do absentee voting.  And my reason for that decision?  Al Gore seemed too "robotic," too "stiff."  Needless to say, 4 years at a liberal arts college, 2 years (and counting) of grad school and 10 years living in Massachusetts helped me realize the impact larger forces have on people's decisions.  I don't put a lot of faith in "pull yourself up by your bootstraps and suck it up."  


by ProgressiveDL on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:49:51 PM EST
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Re: Voters Trust McCain More on Nearly EVERYTHING (none / 0)

Come on people, WAKE UP, it is entirely because we are infighting while McCain gets a pass.

I don't know who you support.  For disclosure, I am 100% Obama. But either way, the fight is badly damaging both Clinton and Obama.

In the mean time, the media is having an all out love fest with McCain right now.

The thing the republicans did best for quite a few years was get themselves disciplined and on message and ostentatiously supportive of each other, despite wildly varying viewpoints.  Social conservatives and economic conservatives with relatively little in common were in lock step with conservative cable, radio, and think tanks.  All of them actually had great misgivings towards each other regularly, but you almost never heard about it until you went digging hard.

Democrats seem utterly incapable of pretending to overcome differences and getting on the same page with each other.

THIS IS WHY DEMOCRATS ARE SUPERBLY, LAUGHABLY, EXCEPTIONALLY BRILLIANT AT SNATCHING DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY.

AND WE ARE DOING IT AGAIN RIGHT NOW!

So I don't care who you support.  I really don't.  Me, I never liked Bill Clinton, and though I used to think I kind of liked Hillary personally, she has deeply offended me every day for months and the love is long gone.

It goes pretty much without saying that there are plenty of people reading this that feel just as much dislike for Obama that I feel for the Clinton's.

Well, we can keep at each other as we have been and give McCain a win in what should have been the hardest damn election any republican has ever faced.

Or we can get our shit together, get on message, stop doing the republicans job for them, pretend like we actually can all see eye to eye, and start kicking the crap out of McCain instead of each other.

And we damn well better be willing to get over our personal feelings and vote for whomever gets the democratic nomination, or we really will be screwed.

And for those of you who think McCain can't win, and once the nomination is figured out we will easily beat him, I say think again.  I remember people saying the same in Bush V Gore and Bush V Kerry.  There was no good reason at all we should have lost 2004, but somehow we did anyway.  Taking anything for granted is suicide.


Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages. ~Thomas A. Edison
by mattjfogarty on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 09:22:47 PM EST

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I will telll you why people seem to trust an idiot like McCain on taxes. That is because our politicians are too stupid to highlight the fact that Democrats wont raise taxes for the middle class. I hear Obama mention it occasionally. But it is not made into a mantra the way republicans do. People ignore the fact that a lot of republican controlled localities have just as high property taxes or even higher.

What the democrats need to do is come up with a consistent LOWER TAXES message and say it applies to most people with a few exceptions. Let the superrich scream that they are being left out but as long as the democrats keep saying they are for lower taxes, that should be more effective than giving silly statements like "oh we need to raise taxes".

Democrats need to emphasize cuts in government spending but they do not need to keep repeating that those cuts should come from areass conservatives favor.


by Pravin on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 06:48:22 AM EST

McCain Strong Because Dems are Bruised! (none / 0)

Clintons and Republican Spin Machine all aligned against Barack!  Both are liars, distorters, engage in fear and smear... there is no truth from either of the Giants only domination... they have even colloborated together for greater strength, then one will overthrow the other if they get what they want!

Most of the corporate media, cable news, ABC, NBC are owned and Republican controled.  They tell us what they want us to Hear, not what we need to Know to truly inform us as a society, which will give us power and aid in their demise!  

They know Clintons have ailenated African-Americans so they are now actively courting their support while trying to elevate Hillary and deflate Barack. They MSM are not asking Hillary any of the pertinent questions, not on Iran, not on Mark Penn, although he is still on conference calls to this day, not on a pending lawsuit in California or anything elese that might damage her candidacy in the eyes of the people.  There is even some talk of personal dalliances of Bill Cllinton which they know about and plan to release if she is nominee.  


by bacalove on Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 09:55:07 AM EST


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